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Re: Some good videos with Bill Gates

ZAIMatte — Wed, 16 May 2012 09:42:33 -0000

Well, yes and no. SBO and BSOD is very similar in this case I suppose...

Jokes aside, I agree with you, though I fail to see the safety implication of a BSOD, availability of the plant will suffer but not safety. Nuclear plants tend to fail safe, control system goes down and 2-3 seconds later you will have all rods in the core and a subcritical reactor not to mention half an hour to restart your systems to asure cooling of the core.

In my mind, not a safety problem per see...

Re: Did the Japanese authorities lie about the Fukushima accident? Part 1.

Lantzelot — Wed, 16 May 2012 07:01:06 -0000

Come on Johan, are you forgetting about our new policy of getting the money openly from anybody that we can cheat?:

http://nuclearpoweryesplease.o...

Re: Did the Japanese authorities lie about the Fukushima accident? Part 1.

Johan — Wed, 16 May 2012 05:01:09 -0000

CIA? No no you got it all wrong! We only get money from the Rotschilds, the Rockefellers and some of the other lizard families that rule the world!

Re: Did the Japanese authorities lie about the Fukushima accident? Part 1.

Cerey_runyon — Tue, 15 May 2012 22:33:45 -0000

your and idiot if you think the public is so dumb as to accept "your" analysis and a "cheap shot" at professor Majia Holmer Nadesan's work, where she should get the Nobel prize for humanitarian concerns. You are a disinformation agent working for the CIA

Re: Some good videos with Bill Gates

Vesperto — Tue, 15 May 2012 20:15:45 -0000

Nuclear power plants running on Microsoft software? That's one place where i really don't want to see a BSOD.

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Zemzem — Mon, 14 May 2012 08:43:23 -0000

Yeah,and they're into crystals and dowsing too,those antinukes.All of them.And they smell,the dirty hippies.
LOL.!
OMFG YOU ARE SO FUNNY AND CLEVER BRIAN MAYS ROFL ROFL OMFG LOOOOL!!!!

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Joffan — Sun, 13 May 2012 22:47:27 -0000

Ah yes, the people of Japan. I have a great deal of respect and concern fort heir well-being, and as a result I have nothing but contempt and repugnance for the anti-nuclear ghouls who try to exploit and increase their fears.

The clearest lesson of Chernobyl was that a nuclear accident is only so bad, but the reaction of society can make it far far worse by fostering feelings of anxiety, victimhood, hopelessness and isolation. The radiation has a limited effect but the lies and distortions of anti-nuclear exploiters can mislead people and governments into actions that make things significantly worse.

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Lantzelot — Sun, 13 May 2012 20:41:29 -0000

steveo77 It was the profound level of your analysis, which you so eloquently managed to summarize into a single word, that impressed me.

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

steveo77 — Sun, 13 May 2012 16:01:02 -0000

These concepts are simple, mostly high school stuff. it is similar to the same lies that nukers use, pretending that others cannot possibly understand nuclear concepts and radiation effects.

That goes right back to the ego of nukers.

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

steveo77 — Sun, 13 May 2012 15:58:44 -0000

Look at the design, it is silly. They did what was easily feasible, not what was necessary.

And just why the heck isn't there better documentation readily available. That is part of the point. Show me 5 --30" I beams sway braced with proper footings and columns and I will feel alot better than this spindly (lookup slenderness coefficient and buckling load, and consider the effect under a 9 earthquake) poles that were moved into place under human power.

Indeed that was their design criteria..."able to be installed under human power", NOT what is appropriate to prevent an equivalent cesium release of 800 nuclear weapons.

To think that we shouldn't second guess TEPCO engineers is absurd, like the guys who didn't think, hey pipes freeze in winter, and frozen pipes break....and failed to protect pipes until 20 or 30 some were broke.

This is like the keystone cops

TEPCO is a zombie company, barely functioning, waiting for the relief of government takeover and back to their easy life knowing they have the entire resources of the taxpayer nation at their disposals to fund their bonuses and pensions.

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Lantzelot — Sun, 13 May 2012 14:01:04 -0000

:-D

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Brian Mays — Sun, 13 May 2012 10:34:35 -0000

Yeah, there seems to be something about nutty conspiracy theorists that makes them believe that they are the perfect armchair civil engineers (cf. the "9-11 truth" theorists).

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Johansimu — Sun, 13 May 2012 09:56:46 -0000

I guess you can by seeing those pictures mentaly calculate the load it can take and I am sure your judgement by watching some pictures is far far superior to tepcos engineers. Tepcos analysis suggests it increases seismic margin by 20%, random online anti nuke troll thinks not. Whos judgement to trust? Tricky tricky.....

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Johansimu — Sun, 13 May 2012 09:49:46 -0000

TEPCO doesnt have a perfect track record of honesty. But compared to what the regular anti nukes write TEPCO looks like baby jesus... As far as structural integrity of a TEPCO plant, I find it likely that they know better than just about anyone else.

None of your statements are very relevant. Yes a worse quake can happen (i am sure even Sweden will someday in the far future will suffer a worse quake). Doesnt say squat about probability though, but you are so busy with insinuations that it probably never occured to you. If you wish civil discussion then act like an adult. If you are busy slinging insults then why not go somewhere else where people acctually care?

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Lantzelot — Sun, 13 May 2012 09:07:54 -0000

@Other Tom : "You are aware that the management of Tepco stand a very real possibility of facing criminal charges,and as such their statements are not to be treated with the sort of blind faith normally bestowed upon mediaeval popes?"

So instead we should rely on the statements from a well-known alarmist with inflated CV who already has faced criminal charges while serving in public office?

TEPCO is certainly not among our favorite companies (they pay us too little...), and there are a number of issues with them that should end up in court. So we do not trust everything they say automatically. We try to assess if what they say is reasonable, compare with what other people say, or use our own knowledge in order to check their statements.

They can still be wrong, and so can we, but if you rather prefer to trust the alarmists on the other side of the Pacific, who are so keen on exaggerating everything (even when they are right the truth does not seem to be enough for them), then why are you here? Isn't ENENEWS good enough for you?

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

ZAIMatte — Sun, 13 May 2012 09:02:09 -0000

Hey, he is almost as talented as Busby at this rate...

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Lantzelot — Sun, 13 May 2012 08:33:48 -0000

Wow, the same person who entered the discussion with calling us names in capital letters is now waiting for an apology. What next, a duel at dawn?

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Lantzelot — Sun, 13 May 2012 08:24:00 -0000

Epidemiologist and psychoanalyst as well?

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Jaro — Sun, 13 May 2012 08:05:15 -0000

Please feel free to convert it to a blog post, or whatever -- I will only be using the version I translated into French....

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Lantzelot — Sun, 13 May 2012 07:29:13 -0000

steveo77 :Oh, our PV guy is an expert on DNA damage induced by radioactivity as well? Impressive, I lift my beret.

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

steveo77 — Sun, 13 May 2012 06:07:39 -0000

Look through here....what in here gives you even the slightest hint that the structures are stable

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/f...

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In my little write-up, there is a video about the steel supports, they added.

http://nukeprofessional.blogsp...

Pro

Page 17 is the only relevant one, and that gives me absolutely no warm
fuzzy that this could take another 9 earthquake. ZERO.

What seismic is that rated for?

Like that reactor 1 cover....they built it for 65 MPH rated wind load, when Japan gets typhoons all the time.....hmmmm

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Zemzem — Sun, 13 May 2012 06:06:08 -0000

You have my email address-I will accept your apology for your dishonesty in misrepresenting me graciously,in the event that you should grow a conscience.

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Zemzem — Sun, 13 May 2012 05:55:31 -0000

As far as you are aware have TEPCO lied about Fukushima?
Yes or no?
My argument is not "I say TEPCO lied, therefore everything I say may be true, even if it flies in the face of what they say".
To claim this is my argument is dishonest,and reveals you,Michael,as a dishonest person.
I did not claim the fuel pool could "collapse"-to imply that I claimed this by using quotation marks is dishonest.
To imply that I claimed this would mean "the end of civilization" is dishonest.
The fact that TEPCO have lied about Fukushima does not mean that they must be lying in their statement about the fuel pool-nor did I claim this.To imply that I did is dishonest,Michael.
What it means is that they are an organisation with a track record of lying.

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

Michael Karnerfors — Sun, 13 May 2012 05:24:28 -0000

The fact that you claim TEPCO has lied about other things does not carry any weight when it comes to judging the veracity about the fuel pool.

The fact that a larger earthquake might hit the region does not mean that fuel pool will or even could "collapse".

And the fact that fuel pool might collapse for reasons hitherto unknown does not mean the end of civilization.

Your argument is lacking because all you put forth is "I say TEPCO lied, therefore everything I say may be true, even if it flies in the face of what they say".

Re: The spent fuel pool at Fukushima #4

steveo77 — Sun, 13 May 2012 05:11:38 -0000

Classic deflection....focus on the tsunami as if the more visible disaster somehow makes the invisible nuke damage to our DNA and health less bad. Very weak attempt at a comeback.